I am very excited about this writing endeavor. There are people all over the world who are looking to improve their writing and I am confident this exercise will prove helpful to them. Before I go on to writing about what I have learned so far I will highlight a few comments I received and provide a resposne:
From: Lori
Well, you didn’t tag me (and I think that’s a good thing), but I want to respond anyway. I can teach you to write. My fee is $125/hr.
While your post is somewhat cute, it’s just another ploy for freebies from working writers. Your career will only be as successful as the time you put into it; you won’t gain a thing by expecting others to do the growing for you.
Don’t worry; this is not a sinister, narcissistic ploy for freebies from working writers. I see blogs as a provider of two important functions. First, they are a fantastic mechanism to help individuals build relationships; community is a fundamental theme in the blogging world. Second, blogging is a fantastic medium with which to engage people. From unfiltered and raw dialogue to a refined educational tool, blogs can be anything. Some blogs have the sole purpose of helping people grow.
Steve Pavilna has as fantastic personal development blog. He doesn’t charge people $125 per hour for his services. He enables people all over the world to grow for free. Obviously not everyone in the world can make a living from this model, but I think it is an important one to follow. I would never expect anyone to volunteer their services for free. But when someone is willing to help out, I welcome their participation with open arms.
The purpose of this blog expands beyond me as an individual person. If I was soliciting requests for one person to educate me, I would not have selected a public medium to do so. The purpose of this blog is to help people all over the world become better writers. The lessons I learn through this project will be immortalized on the Internet, and I sincerely hope hundreds – if not thousands – are able to benefit from this experience.
Nathania, you are absolutely correct. Thank you so much for providing links to those screenplay writers. I am certainly going to thoroughly explore them. Every single medium of communication is different, and screenplays just happen to be my favorite. I think I will start this project by exploring fundamental and core elements of all writing, dabble in a few mediums, and then pick the one I love most.
Carson, your post is brilliant. Thank you so much for writing it.
Everyone else, I’m going to write about my learnings so far in “Lesson 1”.
Cheers,
Jeremy David
UPDATE!!!
I was wondering where that comment came from. I found the source. Here’s my response:
Ahh, a challenge of my own. I was wondering who inspired that snarky (and valid) little comment on my website. I honestly appreciate your… wanting clarification… before you continue.
1. Who the heck am I, and why should you spend your time helping me?
My name is Jeremy David Peters. I’m a student slash politician at the University of Victoria, in British Columbia. It’s funny that the first characteristic I thought of was that I am involved in student politics. It’s a vicious and thankless realm of impossibility. But alas, I am entrenched in that world and eagerly anticipate April 30th when my term is complete. In terms of school, I’m technically a business student – but I’m not one of the cliché suit toting cliquey commerce students that typically come to mind when the word it uttered. Or thought. I am passionate about the environment. I have a bad feeling about where the world is going and I fear it is too late. Zombies. It’s going to happen. Trust me.
I doubt that I am the only person in the world who wants to be able to write eloquent and compelling literature. Heck, that’s why they offer English courses, right? Unfortunately, my formal education didn’t revolve around those classes. I was too busy doing my silly commerce stuff. So now I am here, close to graduation, regretting my inability to write.
I love blogging, I think it is a powerful medium of communication. I frequently change what I blog about, and now my targets are focused on helping people write better. Believe me or not, I sincerely want to help people who are in my position learn to write better. Yes, there are probably many resources – you highlighted some of them yourself – that can teach someone to write. But they are not cut and dry. There is no definitive step by step guide that teaches someone to write better. That’s what I want to do, and help people succeed.
Why not do my own work? Why do people write research papers? Why have books? Why record anything for that matter. If everyone had to start from scratch anytime they did anything, what would be the point of doing it first. That didn’t really make any sense, but I’m trying to say that I was hoping to start my writing quest by learning from what accomplished people, like yourself, have done before. Then, when all is done, I would refine everything into a simple and effective resource to help people in my position.
What will you get out of this? Credit for being a participant, and the satisfaction of helping people write better. I agree, my little challenge thing was a bit sassy and INFOMERCIALesque. But it worked. Here we are, talking about writing. Would you have responded if I sent you a little email asking for help? I’m not sure. I’ve already learned one thing I didn’t know before: writing forums are a great way to learn to write better. Tip number one assimilated. Celebration.
Before I continue, I’m going to look at your analysis of the great writing challenge:
Step 1: Pick 10 or so people who know what they’re doing
Check.
Step 2: Issue a double-dog dare aimed at making them climb all over each other to help you be a better writer for no compensation other than “bragging rights — if you win.”
X. There are more benefits than bragging rights. I didn’t want to dangle the glowing carrot of altruism in front of your face, but it’s there. Trust me.
Step 3: Sit back and watch your blog traffic skyrocket as people talk about your guts/brilliance/foolishness.
I think I’ve had 30 new visitors today? Ha ha, maybe the ball just has to start rolling. And if it does, well, that would be awesome. All those Google ads I have on my page might earn… Oh wait a second. I don’t have Google ads on my website anymore. But it would be really cool if I did, and I managed to make like $4.
2. What’s in it for you?
That’s a really good question. First of all, you got to write a really sarcastic post about some random kid (am I still a kid? Whatever). Don’t worry though. I love it. I can handle it. I’m involved in Student Politics remember. I thrive on this kind of stuff. Seriously though. You have valid questions and I am having fun answering them.
When I was saying bragging rights I was jokingly implying that when I win an academy award I’ll go on stage and thank you personally for making me the writer I am today. All your friends, while you’re sitting around the television in your fancy dresses, would be so jealous. I wish I could italicize that so. That would be so cool.
Let’s briefly talk about opportunity costs. Obviously if you had a paying client calling you asking why their copy isn’t done, you wouldn’t say “Sorry, bud, I’m helping this random person for free. Wait in line”. But if it’s raining, and the power’s out. And it’s cold, and your cell phone isn’t working. And it’s dark. And you’re really bored, and you have nothing to do. Not even board games or DVDs. Just nothing. That would be a good time. “If I give my services away for free people will not pay for them!” No. I do not have any money.
What would you actually get out of this? Recognition for your work. When people check out the blog they’ll see all of your contributions and think “Wow! This person is really smart. Maybe I’ll pay for some consulting!” No, I’m not talking about myself. I’m talking about you. Also the readers of your blog would get the benefit of anything you provide because I’d hope you would provide the information to them too. Basically, the reward is helping many people learn to write, and getting some free advertising along the way.
3. And what’s this “if you win” crap?
I’m the only winner? Nope. Everyone’s a winner. You, me, and the people who participate. Even the people in four years who stumble upon these posts. I believe in free information. I’m not about to close up shop and start charging people for what you teach me. No one would listen to me. Why would they hire me when they can hire you? This is about helping everyone. The process I go through to learn how to write will be available for everyone. I’m just the example. A tangible experience people can follow. I could figure it out myself. I’m sure that’s what you did, and thousands of people all over the world. But times are changing. Information is fast and accessible. Communication is easy.
I agree with you 100%. There is no easy way to improve. If there was everyone and their chimpanzee would be a writer. A good writer too. Then, actually, it would be the bad writers that are famous… because everyone else is good. But that’s a philosophical debate I wouldn’t be able to eloquently defend. So I shant. I love that word. Even though it’s not real. Wait, aren’t “shants” short pants? I think they are. So I shall not.
Becoming a better writer is going to take years. It’s going to involve reading many books. It’s going to involve writing a lot. And I think that’s cool. I do not have hundreds and hundreds of dollars to pay people to teach me to write, so I came up with an idea: a blog that is going to help many people learn to write, and diffuses the task of teaching across many different people.
So there we go. Hugs and ponies. I heart you. I shall begin the archive retrieval process immediately. Or tonight. Certainly before the bell tolls one.
5 comments ↓
You certainly do land on your feet — and they’re your OWN two feet. I would add a task to your list:
Get a blog consultation (for free of course
but I don’t think I can give you a recommendation without getting in trouble, take a look through someone’s blogroll and you’ll find someone.)
Find out how to:
Focus intent
Find your voice
Be remarkable
Monetize to fund your ventures
Get sponsors? Hell, why not Patagonia, Mapquest, Oprah.
You have a very funny sense of humor–this I only just gleaned from your post at Inkthinker. Sans snarkiness it will be your strong suit in your blog. That and the political/social bent. And what if your intention is not to teach others how to write, but to contribute to your blog as you prepare for your travel, and while you travel. Focus on the coming adventure. Once you’re done, you’ll have a book possibility. And if you do something along the way that benefits others, like volunteering somewhere, doing something amazing somewhere that changes the world as we know it, you will be the bomb (old people can’t say that, can they?) and people will jump over themselves to publish it. If you hook up with a powerful intention for the world now, before you go, your blog will truly explode.
Based on your values, what needs in the world are you moved to meet?
(Hint: this is the “remarkable” part.)
You’re doing fine.
L
Well, you do have some moxie, I’ll give you that.
When I started freelance writing and blogging, I read Marcia Yudkin’s “Freelance Writing for Magazines and Newspapers,” and Formichelli and Burrell’s “The Renegade Writer.” I recommend them to you, if you plan to market writing as a way to support your around-the-world trip.
Get started early lining up that support — there is a post on the (very useful) Travelwriters.com BBS by someone who already started such a journey and now wants to figure out travel writing and publicity — he was pretty much smacked for not having his act together before he left.
The more good writing that you read, of all genres, the more it will improve your ability to write well, because you’ll be able to compare your work to work that sang to you, and figure out how to make yours sing.
You’re doing fine and have a good style already.
Jeremy, had you visited my blog you would have seen that I too offer free advice that attempts to help fellow writers. I’m all for helping others – what I don’t understand is why the blanket push for help? Why not contact folks directly? And yes, I DO charge clients that much for coaching, which is what it seems you’re asking for. Not too many professionals have the free time to devote to someone who may or may not be serious. Frankly, your initial post didn’t seem all that serious to me.
If you want to learn more of the insider view of a writing career, visit my blog. If you really want to learn to write, I would suggest in this order – a basic composition course at college; Marcia Yudkin’s book (mentioned above); The Harbrace College Handbook; and the time it takes to read them and really learn proper sentence structure and presentation of ideas.
Lisa – ha ha, I appreciate your comments. I do consider myself rather cat-like. Oh wait, cats have four feet. Shoot.
Focus intent, find my voice, be remarkable, and monetize to fund my ventures / get sponsors: awesome ideas. This input is fantastic and exactly why I made this blog. I just need to make sure that I pass my findings along to other people. Getting sponsors is going to be challenging. Getting on Oprah, ha ha ha. That would probably happen only after I finish my adventures and I do something remarkable along the way. It’s a good goal (and between you and me, it’s always been my number one).
I’m starting to think that I should focus on my travel writing, considering that I will be traveling for over a year (possibly two). Thank you so much!
Sheila – moxie. What a word. I like it, and I am flattered. That post you provided is very interesting. My internet-friend Liz Strauss (http://www.successful-blog.com/) suggested that I embark on my adventure with some sort of cause in mind. I just need to find the right one – something I believe in, and I would have to be genuine about it. One cool thing a bout my trip is that it is interactive: a real life “Choose My Adventure”.
I’m glad you like my style, because I am starting worry (based on what I have heard so far) that it is not possible to make someone a great writer. The can be refined, but greatness comes from within. I hope I am mistaken.
In terms of funding my adventure, I have good news. I’ve managed to save enough money to travel for about a year. I will probably have scoop ice-cream a few times along the way… but I’ve bought my plane tickets and everything is cool. For now.
Lori – thank you for your follow up. I certainly wasn’t trying to pass any judgment. You took the time to read my blog and comment, and that is super cool. I just wanted to explain what my genuine intentions were.
Two book recommendations equals a trip to Chapters. Thanks for that.
The whole Great Writing Adventure thing seems to be sparking some debate. Was it a good idea? I think so. Look at what’s happening. Writers are coming together and pooling resources. I assure you that everything I learn will be complied into something useful for people in the future. Thank you everyone for your input so far! This is fun. Real fun.
“Steve Pavilna has as fantastic personal development blog. He doesn’t charge people $125 per hour for his services.”
This would carry rather more weight if it weren’t for the fact that most of the people you tapped also have free blogs that provide help to writers. You seem to want either spoon-feeding or personal coaching. That costs money.
But I don’t find you particularly funny or cute, just entitled and lazy. There is tons of information out there on becoming a better writer. Your typings fingers aren’t broken and neither is Google.
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